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You can use lower grade hardware than that. But how is the user experience?

I am used to everything loading in an instant. I rather waste money than waste time. Money I can make, time I can't.


I invest significant resources in my desktop. But my laptops? For the last 5 years or so I've used exclusively pre-owned chromebooks, cost about 50 dollars on mercari. Flash aftermarket firmware, install linux, and I'm in business. Its usually a celeron with 4 gb of ram, although my first was 2 gb. They're plenty snappy. Youtube loads pretty much instantly. Playing actual real games is probably a step too far, but as a second screen to just have and use around the house there isn't really any compromise.
The very same for me, I have 5 MacBooks collecting dust (some are broken, some aren’t), but 2GB Samsung 11” Chromebook is my favourite. It broke recently.

Any models you would recommend to check? I haven’t been in look for Chromebooks for years (like 5 years). I would rather buy small and tiny, and also very cheap. As my use-case is just slacking with it around the house.

When I need a new one I'm just looking at what's available for a decent price (usually local on Mercari, sometimes eBay) and then checking the list of supported models for the not-ChromeOS firmware at https://wiki.mrchromebox.tech/Supported_Devices

If it's supported and I'm comfortable with the method for disabling write-protect then I pull the trigger.

I usually install xubuntu, but on a couple models I've found Ubuntu/Debian based distros have some issues with the trackpad, but Fedora running XFCE works fine, so you may want to go straight to that if you're comfortable with Red Hat.

It's not about money. It's about using the planet in a responsible way. Unfortunately ruining the planet and harming many of its inhabitants is very cheap for many in industrialized countries.
Answer the question, please.

I am never going to waste time on things like compilation when the laptop next to it can do it faster, yet convince myself "oh but it is better for the planet". I don't know what kind of idiot does that.

(Which is why I did not hesitate to replace my laptop when I found that a new laptop would be 1.5x-2x faster in everyday tasks.)

The question has already been used in my first post: Fully usable for 99% of the users. > 99% of the users never use a compiler.

Fully usable also means that you might have to adapt your your habits: Keeping many tabs open is just being unorganized for many users. For a programmer having to checking the documentation of many classes regularly, each of them on a different page it might be slightly different. But 99% are not developers.

I am developer. When I build Yocto I am glad to have 32 or 64 GB available. When I travel (for fun) I am glad to be able to use 2 GB efficiently, without really suffering from ultra slow reponse times. A couple of seconds here and there have not spoiled my leisure time.

>You can use lower grade hardware than that. But how is the user experience?

It depends on the software. When the developers are targeting the "average user", then everyone who uses hardware that's significantly older than average will be punished accordingly. This doesn't mean it's actually hard to support that old hardware, it just means that performance isn't a priority.

If everyone used old hardware for longer, then the software would support old hardware better.

Also, latency has been going up over time rather than down: https://danluu.com/input-lag/

This is more of a social problem than a technical one.

Well, depends on the software and the workload. Some things just are not feasible with underpowered hardware, no matter how the software is written. Compiling large projects, or testing them with VM's, is the kind of thing one might legitimately want to use a high-end device for. But if all you do is write office documents, or use SSH to connect to some remote hosts, pretty much anything will work.

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