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matwood parent
Apple also stated they would work to add encryption to the RCS spec, poking Google in the eye with their proprietary model. Of course this might not ever happen, but it's still fun to see big companies taking jabs at each other.
sundvor
As an Android user with a healthy distaste of Google things, this + parent makes me smile.

(Discontinuing their old magazine features, with nary a month to back up my purchased collection, as a one by one download was the latest thing).

Smoosh
When elephants fight, the grass suffers.
parineum
When companies compete, consumers win.
donny2018
Unless they conspire in $20B/year search agreements.
jdhendrickson
Or conspire to cap engineer pay and get a slap on the wrist not equivalent to the money they saved, and then continued the collusion.
randomdata
In that case Apple and Google are the consumer, though. It is the workers offering the service, who are competing for those capped positions, even while being aware of the situation. The consumer wins.
YetAnotherNick
Why did consumer loose here? This would have definitely had effect on iPhone's cost.
paholg
That's not competition.
bigfudge
And there’s no true Scotsman. This sort of thing is - in practice - what capitalism looks like in the 21st century.
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fennecbutt
Maybe small companies. But this isn't going to make any major difference to consumers; two bulls can lock horns and yet not budge a millimeter.
KineticLensman
Not in the race to the bottom, they don’t
TeMPOraL
Up to a point. Afterwards, consumers suffer from garbage products, enshittified services, and under-reported inflation, while companies compete themselves to oblivion.
randomdata
You really only see that in tech, and do so because of lack of meaningful competition. You get some sideline competition, yes, but never direct competition. The law doesn't allow you to directly compete. As soon as you try you will be slapped with a patent/copyright/whatever lawsuit that will kill you off before you ever had a chance.

Industries where direct competition is allowable do not suffer from these problems.

TeMPOraL
> Industries where direct competition is allowable do not suffer from these problems.

No, they suffer much worse. Haven't you noticed how all goods and services go to shit over the years? This is not an accident, this is competition optimizing out any quality it can get away with removing.

randomdata
> Haven't you noticed how all goods and services go to shit over the years?

No. I can't think of anything I buy that I would want to go back in time with. The quality in my experience has only improved, often dramatically. Those who try to skimp on quality get destroyed by the competition. What are you referring to?

The only thing I can think of that you might be referring to – based on what I hear other say, not based on my own buying habits – is things like appliances where manufacturers have really dug deep into computerization so that they can enjoy the same legal moats other tech companies do. But what you are experiencing there is the lack of competition we spoke of earlier.

Alifatisk
This is such an interesting thread to follow, I didn’t think about the traps Google had!

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