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I think it’s worth explicitly comparing our childhood issues. It took a long time to come to terms with the fact that it’s just nothing close to what women go through.

It’s horrible in its own way. But women are judged for the rest of their lives, in exactly the ways this thread illustrates. When have you ever wondered if your body was the reason you did or didn’t get a job?

It’s one thing for image issues to impact your self esteem. It’s quite another for them to be the central focus of your life. The makeup industry is massive precisely because of this double standard.

If that negates a few of our childhood experiences, perhaps we should try to get comfortable with that. The fact that we think we’re special and that we have it just as bad is part of the problem.


What the h*ll do you know about my life? Nothing.
That’s true, and I don’t mean to downplay your experiences. This is more of me trying to convince you that it’s okay to feel angry and hurt without it taking away from other peoples’ experiences. It doesn’t have to be a you-or-them phenomenon.

All I’m saying is that it pervades womens’ lives more. They have to deal with it constantly, every day. If you have any trans friends, I’d encourage you to ask them about it, since the issues are doubly magnified. That was one of the stepping stones that let me start to believe that women have it much worse than men, even if our experiences are also awful.

Either way though, I hope you have a nice week, and I’m sorry if my comment brought up some trauma.

> If you have any trans friends, I'd encourage you to ask them about it, since the issues are doubly magnified.

This is like saying that blackface actors experience doubly-magnified racism, when they're actually just adding to the problem.

For women who want to be men, it is typically rooted in wanting to escape the harsh societal impositions of femininity, rather than confronting it head-on. This is also why many women these days are calling themselves "non-binary".

For men who desire to be women, it's mostly driven by a fetishization of womanhood, with their view of women as sex objects that can be male-emulated through cosmetic and surgical means.

For both women and men, the whole basis of "trans" is a perpetuation of misogyny, in one way or another.

and what do you know about trans people?

as you so eloquently show, nothing.

Like seriously, spend at least a little while understanding a topic before you talk about it. *shakehead

That's rather an empty comment. Do you have any specific counterpoints you could share?
This is the same kind of sexist nonsense that leads to double standards in everything from nursing and teaching to domestic abuse treatment.

Men have just as many body issues as women because they’re human and if you think it’s any easier for men then you’ve been living under a rock.

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