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This is an uncharitable reply. Don’t assume the worst about your conversational partner.

That being said, didn’t the first gpt-like models do character level prediction? Essentially no tokenization?

Also, the idea of “what if we removed / rethought tokenization” is in no way equivalent to “what if we didn’t even use neural nets”.


Imho, you cannot expect to have a conversation if you don't put the minimum amount of required effort to understand what it's being talked about.

Throwing in wild ideas maybe works when you know what you're talking about and want to get people to think ouside the box, but does not work when you don't have a clue and expect people to explain things to you and to find a solution to your wild ideas.

Re: removing tokenization. Tell me how you would remove tokenization and keep NN. Go ahead.

Look at the interesting discussion that happened as a result of my comment. My comment was completely fine.

Your incredulity and exasperation is misplaced. If you can’t realize that then I think we are done here.

Btw, since we are already in the thick of things… Even if you were 100% correct, which you aren’t, there is really no need to be rude. It just makes things worse.

> Re: removing tokenization. Tell me how you would remove tokenization and keep NN. Go ahead.

You can make a language model using character-by-character prediction, but I believe they don’t perform as well. This is now my 3rd time mentioning this.

There's a ton of ongoing research on this and I don't think it's reasonable to ask for a summary in the comments.

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