Comment by EMIRELADERO

EMIRELADERO May 13, 2023 parent

Just because everyone knows how it works doesn't mean alternatives shouldn't be tried, especially when they're superior in the aspects that matter for the audience you're interested in.

Besides, how do you think a competing product should rise then?

enlyth May 13, 2023

I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I consider less friction and more familiarity to be superior for this use case.

I was trying to provide a contrary opinion because I often see the HN hivemind hate on Discord heavily for no reason, while it's become a ubiquitous piece of software used by younger people that the older generations have been completely sleeping on and still think it's some niche version of IRC for gamers. Discord has hundreds of millions of users, it's a behemoth rivaling the big social networks.

As a random user, if I were trying to ask a question about this piece of software, I want to open the Discord server and ask it, I don't want to start researching whatever Zulip is and how to use it and figuring out how a new interface works

terinjokes May 13, 2023

It it against the Discord Terms of Service to extend the accessibility of the client past what is available in web standards (and what of that they implement). The regularly ban accounts of people who try to make it more accessible (and often of the users too).

These might be good qualities for a gamer guild or YouTuber community, but it's a real barrier to participating in open source software communities.

Zulip is open, and doesn't have these restrictions (and already had many bridges and accessibility integrations). I participated in the Oil Zulip, and it was less of a hassle tHan to join a new Discord guild and navigating their adhoc rules bots.

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