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I totally understand and sympathize with that feeling which is not uncommon here on Hacker News, but when I speak to the average internet user they do care about privacy, they just don't have the same anxiety over cloud services. We are following a similar path to Notion or Paper who have millions of users who trust that their data is secure, private, and accessible.

Also many features like realtime live collaboration are incredibly difficult to do with a local-first setup, but provides a user experience that lets Visible pages be useful for families, friends, and communities.

We do want to make your data fully available to you via export, and we don't view or use the data in your pages for anything. We have basic event-based analytics to see how people (anonymously) use Visible, but that's just at the level of button clicks and seeing how many pages people create on average.


Notion or Paper who have millions of users who trust that their data is secure, private, and accessible

Until those services are inevitably hacked, as we've seen most of these companies play fast and loose with security.

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