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I'm one of the people who've experienced this (exceptionally rare) side effect personally. I was hospitalized twice after my second Pfizer dose (in Australia). I'm still recovering. It sucked. It still sucks.

And I'm still very happy to be vaccinated. I do not at all regret my vaccination. The EV of a covid vaccine was, and is, hugely positive. I drive to work, I've run two marathons, and I've been scuba diving dozens of times. All are riskier, overall, than the vaccine.

Even if 100% of the ~12.6 in a million cases of myocarditis from the vaccine had resulted in death --- which, let's be very clear, they absolutely have not --- it would still be a risk worth taking. Your per year chances of dying from homicide in the US are 3-4 times as high.


I don’t wanna sound mean at all but honestly, a this point I’m just sick of this trend of bragging about numbers and statistics ignoring completely that behind that “small percentage of people” there are guys like me who have been having a rough time with post vaccine heart related issues.

I get your point from a pure “analytical-cognitive-satisfaction” perspective. But in my case, I’ve been vaccinated with Moderna and I’ve been struggling with my heart for the last two months: Arrhythmia, pain in my chest, excessive strong beating even being sitting down in my sofa, short breath, tiredness even for the most simple physical efforts. I ignored all the symptoms assuming that was something psychosomatic due stress or what not (I even quit caffeine just in case). Two nights ago I woke up at 5 am because my heart was beating so strong and the pain in my chest was massive. I ran to the hospital.

I am a very healthy person: no smoke, sport all my life, take care of nutrition, 0 family related heart issues, took all the precautions for not getting covid nor spread it in case of being asymptomatic , take antigen tests twice per week etc And here I am, freaking praying for the results to be ok, knowing that if not, I’m on my own with the possibility of ending up with a faulty heart that worked like a charm before having to be vaccinated due to extorsion-like strategies from the government and gaslighting and half-truths from media.

So yes, I am sick of being treated like a number.

PS: Please, don’t take this as an attack by any means.

Your change of dying from the vaccine is very low, indeed.

But, if you have no comorbidity, your chance of dying from the covid is extremely low too...

You must also take this into account in your comparison

Isn’t the risk of myocarditis an order of magnitude or two higher when contracting the virus?

Isn’t it then a matter of 12.6 in a million with the vaccine or 126 in a million when getting the virus?

Depends heavily on age/sex.
It looks likely that everyone who lives ten more years is going to encounter this virus at least once and there is a frequency of comorbidities first discovered at the morgue that needs to be considered by a "healthy" person.
"Previously having covid" (which happens more than you'd think, and will undoubtedly continue to happen as time passes) counts as a comorbidity.
Consider that your risk of adverse reaction was higher than advertised: https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myoca...

(Depending on age/sex)

If that side effect has 12.6 in a million odds, what are the odds of an active HN user experiencing it?
(153,057 active HN users * 12.6 events per million)/1,000,000 = 1.4*10^-8

This leads to a P value of approximately 0.0014, which is well below the 5% threshold.

This is a very crude calculation, but it does give an idea of what we can expect. Given the small P value, there’s a good chance that the HN community has experienced a similar event to the one described in the article.

Hold on, 2 million divided by 1 million equals 2, not 0.000000014. What am I missing?
0.153M * 12.6/1M = 1.9E-5

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