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Any money is in selling bombs that are used, so you can sell more. Not much money in nukes, and you can very by stock exchange listings.

This kind of conspiracy thinking utterly ignores the horrifying logic of MAD. Read a bit about Bernard Brodie, pre-eminent strategist, he laid it all out for why deterrence was sadly the only way to go and that we must live in a state of mutually assured destruction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Brodie_(military_str...


> Any money is in selling bombs that are used, so you can sell more. Not much money in nukes

World nuclear arms spending hit $73bn last year – half of it by US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/13/nuclear-weapon...

"The U.S. government is now estimated to have 6,800 nuclear weapons at its disposal, but America hasn’t actually built a new warhead or bomb since the 1990s. “It has refurbished several types in recent years to extend their lifetime,”...The B61-12 atomic bombs, for instance, are to undergo a life-extension program that will cost roughly $9.5 billion. There are 400 to 500 of these bombs... which means refurbishing one will cost about $20 million.

W-80 warheads, another type being refurbished, are estimated to cost $75 million each ... the total cost of the W-80 life extension plan will be $7.3 billion to $9.9 billion over 17 years."

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/heres-how-much-a-nuclear-wea...

Sounds like serious money to me. More details about which companies are making the most money and how:

http://www.nuclearweaponsmoney.org/corporations/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/01/02/20-companies...

The US govt spends 7.3 trillion dollars per year. So that’s about 0.5% of spending. As a fraction of US GDP it’s about 0.17%.

It’s tiny. The claim I was arguing against was this:

> the armaments manufacturers who actually control our society

You can’t control society with 0.17% of US GDP!

Note also that most of that spending does not flow to arms contractors so the actual figure is less. The bulk is spend on the defense department and other government agencies.

Here’s the report your article cites. See page 9

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ican/pages/1549/attach...

Well, it seems a bit pointless debating whether billions of dollars is not much/tiny or a lot.

>> the armaments manufacturers who actually control our society

> You can’t control society with 0.17% of US GDP!

That doesn't seem fair. The companies involved are involved in a lot more than nuclear weapons, as I guess you know. (see my last 2 links)

Yeah, they’re much bigger, but the point is the nuclear spending is clearly not the key to any power they do wield.

As I said, 0.17% of gdp covers all the spending, including on govt salaries. Only a portion of that actually goes to manufacturers.

We currently spend about $750 billion every year on the military, not counting the "black" budget. The stinking, offensive waste will soon exceed a trillion every year. That ain't all going to the VA hospitals. Besides, at this point every American who could have remembered a more normal way to live, is dead. The reptiles won. We literally can't stop spending vast sums killing brown people and preparing to kill more.
Thank you, am reading his Strategy in the Missile Age, which is surprisingly a very enjoyable read. Brodie was evidently a cultured guy and a good writer. There's quite a bit of history and philosophy, and the first 2 pages are entirely about Paradise Lost!

PDF: https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/commercial_books/...

One can't be surprised that Rand Corporation, an entity created by the military-industrial complex to help it control journalists and politicians, would publish such a book.

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