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I bet if you stopped 100 people and asked them to turn off Bluetooth or WiFi using the control center, and to pay attention to the messages you quoted, 100 of them would read those messages and see the colors of the buttons go from blue to white and tell you it means those services are completely deactivated.

It absolutely does not warn you that it is keeping some of those services going in the background.

lonelappde
The average person will never have any idea how anything works, but will have opinions and contradictory requirements like "give me a richly personalized and streamlined experience without knowing anything about me". That's one of the big challenges of privacy in tech.
floatingatoll
They would say so in the same breath as expecting their Apple Watch and Apple Pencil to continue working on their iPhone and iPad respectively, and objecting when they break. Telling them they shouldn't expect Bluetooth devices to continue working when they turn off Bluetooth will make them confused and eventually angry with you; "these devices don't require pairing, or pin codes, or manual connection crap, or any of that nonsense, so they're obviously not Bluetooth, they just work". We know that's not true, but they don't care about that technical distinction.

If you're a normal user, you don't care about whether the radio is active or not. You care about whether you can easily disconnect from crappy Bluetooth devices, or whether you can easily disconnect from broken cafe wi-fi to switch to cellular. The control center buttons provided by Apple do both of those things, without breaking Apple's ecosystem of devices.

Is this resulting control center behavior optimal? Sure is for Apple users. Everything that's broken disconnects and everything magic continues working. Is this optimal for tech nerds? Sure, if they're Apple users, because they quickly come to realize how useful "disconnect from this specific SSID today only, but continue using wi-fi when I go home" is. Is this optimal for people who want to aggressively control their radios at all times? Nope, sure isn't, you'll have to go to the Settings dialog and realize to do so the first time, presumably having missed out on endless Device Paranoia 101 courses that explain this.

Turning off Bluetooth and Wi-Fi is something that most users do not require of their device, and do not want of their device. Those that do want this for some sort of specific reason are the extremely rare exception, and just happen to be in slightly higher proportion here at HN relative to the rest of the world.

reaperducer
Telling them they shouldn't expect Bluetooth devices to continue working when they turn off Bluetooth will make them confused and eventually angry with you

Yep. Many greybeards around here have fought the battle of "Why do I need a modem to access AOL? I got a disk in the mail, that should be good enough!"

floatingatoll
Too bad their takeaway seems to have been “people are stupid” rather than “people had a point”. If AOL couldn’t make a useful program that worked in offline mode, with a content cache loaded on-disc and updated with content regularly, they were totally missing out on the “mail magazines to houses annually” strategy of using those discs for more than just trash waste. But people don’t understand modems and it was easier to mock them than to build a better product.
machello13
I don't agree with that. Some people will never understand anything about their phones, and that's fine, but I don't think the message "Disconnecting Bluetooth Devices Until Tomorrow" is at all misleading about the fact that it's only disconnecting devices, and not shutting down Bluetooth.

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